You are right about "people need to have an understanding".

The fact is most people do not have an understanding and they are to scared to spend the time and money to learn on their own.

If they can't read others views and get an idea of where they are going then they will be less likely to get involved.

The other fact is that average people do not know marketing or even understand marketing let alone sales.

It is the unknowing person that gets preyed upon in mlm's. These same people that joined to make money will not and they won't continue to learn they will just quit.

Most merchant account processors will not even allow a business to use their services if it even smells like mlm. The cat is out of the bag on mlm programs.

If you want to make money online you should build real websites with good content and sell products that people want other than selling a way to make money online.

Cheers!

Dirk

I have been involved in mlm's before and I believe the pyramid comment is true to the mlms as well as regular business. Someone is going to always be at the bottom and those on the top get paid more.
No matter how you cut the cake you have to be active in no matter what you do. Some just require less effort.

I am on the social network side of mondelis. I signed up because of a friend. I have not tried to pursue it. Not that I don't think it will work I just haven't spent any time at it. The way I look at it if I am already doing it on facebook why not mondelis whether I get paid or not. If I get paid it is a bonus. I believe you can succeed at anything you put your mind to, again it may require more effort to the cause in some cases.

I don't believe anyone is going to convince anyone until there is understanding. That understanding doesn't come from getting hackles raised and getting upset. In life many people have doubted one thing or another and some have been huge successes others have not. If anyone can't come to an agreement agree to disagree.

I don't feel that it is in anyone's best interest to knock any other company. Anyone who is interested in any type of business needs to do their homework and decide if they are willing to do what it takes.

You are welcome for the info.

Cheers!

I feel your pain. I hope you are able to recover financially from this bad experience and even possibly try to save others from this same misfortune that obviously we both have had.

Cheers!

Dirk

Then Mondelis became the new MONEY PIT and I still couldn't see myself trying to sucker other suckers into the same boatload of credit card debt, maniacal MLM hype and worthless virtual products that I was duped into buying. Yes, I was a Mondelis sucker once, but $650.00 in burned money cured me of the pipe dream Mondelis promised could be mine if only I recruited enough other suckers to pay into the scheme just like me.

I thought to myself, why am I paying $50.00 a month for EchoLoops when this certain bogus video on YouTube says I could have signed up into EchoLoops for FREE like everyone else got to? Did I get hoodwinked into another Mormon-LDS Pyramid Scheme like Mmoguls, was I subsequently bilked of $650.00 in membership sign up fees and monthly payments just to learn I could have joined for FREE? Or is the video I saw regarding Mondelis/EchoLoops mean to say, that if I scam others to join me for "FREE," they too will get hoodwinked into paying $50.00 per month to play sub-par trashware/abandonware games and I will be paid a tiny monthly-micro commission for scamming my friends and family into being fleeced every month just like you all seem to enjoy doing?

I was promised retail games would be sent to me, I was promised retail orphans (potentially millions of them from Japan alone) placed under me, I was promised unlimited access to Stargate Worlds MMORPG, but instead all I got are crappy little flash-based games to play, which are available for free at ten-trillion other websites on the Internet, and a handful of crap-ware games nobody has ever heard of nor? plays, oh, not to forget, a $50.00 per month bill in the mail to pay for it. Sorry, I dont lie to people and sell them crap I cant even find value in. It is my sole purpose now to destroy EchoLoops by any means necessary. All you fucking scammers have burned people for your own selfish profits. Go die in a fire, Assfuckers! You will see me again as I work to destroy this scam from the face of the earth and prevent others from financial ruin like me.

Thanks for taking the time to leave a "common sense" comment.

The thing that frustrates me the most about MLM, Pyramid type make money online programs is that they put so much time and energy into "marketing it" as a way to become financially independent when it really has no real value other than extracting money from the joiner.

It is easy to get fired up with the mob mentality that they use to get people to join. After the dust settles, some have regrets and, others defend it for another 10 months or so before giving up.

Some MLM promoters have the nerve to call it (IM) internet marketing, I call it bait & fish!

Cheers!